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Poster: FP Date: Sep 28, 2006 12:36pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: What's with the flood of arab stuff?


Something weird is going on here. The OPEN SOURCE section is filling up with tons of what appear to be Islamic video footage of sermons and speeches and attacks with tanks and weapons and all kinds of crazy stuff. There's frequently no description at all, so there's no way to know what the stuff is untill it's downloaded. Lots of these are audio files, even though this is a video section. Many of the files with arab-sounding names are compressed into RAR and ZIP archives, and some are password protected, with no password supplied. Some of the uploads are not movies at all, but mislabeled archives stuffed with non-video files contained inside more archives. It's like someone is trying to hide something.

Is the OPEN SOURCE section being abused as a remote file host for some party with an agenda? Don't password-protected archives violate the very idea of open source?

An example, featuring six minutes of footage of what appears to be western troops being blown up with roadside and car bombs:
http://www.archive.org/details/iraqi_hell
When someone is blown into fragments, a little circle appears onscreen to highlight the largest falling body parts.

Many of the posts feature a video bug or accompanying jpeg of this image:
http://ia331331.us.archive.org/1/items/abuhamza__almouhajir/chora.jpg

When I click SEE RECENT ADDITIONS, I get a page of fifty files. As I type this, about twenty of those files are the mystery Islam ones.

I only check a few OPEN SOURCE MOVIE files once or twice a week, frequently at random, but I keep bumping into these things.

What the heck?

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Poster: hguy4all Date: Oct 9, 2006 2:14am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

ok...i can explain that 2 you .... first yes i'm arabic... and what happens here is that those ppl ypu r talking about r using the file hosting service here 2 upload what they want.... and use archive.org links in thier forums ... that explains why it's password protected with no pass mentioned... as they mention it in thier forum... and i'm telling u that cuz i know what's going here and what's said that archive,org is best file hoster as it give us direct link ,

my best wishes

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffARossi Date: Oct 9, 2006 12:14pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

Hi,

Perhaps you could let them know, then, that if we run accross something that is password protected, we take it down.

This is not a free hosting service. It's an archive. If the material is not accessible to everyone, we don't want it.

Alexis

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Poster: Casey Britton Date: Oct 10, 2006 7:25pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

I've think http://www.archive.org might want to password protect the files here or something.

I monitor several Arabic web sites, this is the file host of choice for many months now for real life jihadi propaganda.

www.alneda.com which used to be the al Qaeda website is now American owned and is directed to an international discussion forum at www.wincoast.com.

If you were to check the video section, or the alneda forums, which is primarily Arabic translations, you will see that http://www.archive.org has been the host of choice, as I said earlier, for some time now.

You can contact me at casey_britton@yahoo.ca if you need any more information.

Casey

This post was modified by Casey Britton on 2006-10-11 02:01:44

This post was modified by Casey Britton on 2006-10-11 02:24:21

This post was modified by Casey Britton on 2006-10-11 02:25:37

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Poster: Casey Britton Date: Oct 10, 2006 8:42pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

For the record, as I post this these 2 directories

http://ia301203.us.archive.org/1/items/AbuMusabSyrian2/

http://ia301215.us.archive.org/0/items/AbuMusabSyrian3/

hold material that was uploaded in June. They consist of pictures and videos that link all over the web including militant forums.

One of those videos may well be the one referred to in todays news:

Top Qaeda leader urges fighters to hit White House

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061010/ts_nm/security_qaeda_libi_dc

DUBAI (Reuters) - A man believed to be a top al Qaeda militant who escaped from a U.S. jail near Kabul was shown in a new videotape broadcast on Tuesday exhorting followers in Afghanistan to fight on until they attack the White House.

"Allah will not be pleased until we reach the rooftop of the White House," Abu Yahya al-Libi was shown telling fighters in the tape aired by the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television.

The channel said the tape was one-hour long, showing footage of Libi urging fighters to train hard and even to try to acquire nuclear technology.

"You have to get well prepared by starting with exercise, and then you have to learn how to use technology until you are capable of nuclear weapons," he said.

Libi was shown in the footage bearded and wearing a long grey Muslim robe while standing in front of a group of fighters.

Libi is believed to be the alias of Libyan Mohammad Hassan who along with three other al Qaeda militants broke out of the U.S. jail at Bagram Air Base last year.

Analysts say he is an influential militant preacher, better known for recruiting fighters than for actual combat.

Arabiya said the authenticity of the tape could not be verified, but experts had told its bureau in Afghanistan the video was filmed in the southeast of the country.

British troops in Iraq said in September they killed one of the four al Qaeda escapees -- Omar Faruq, one of Osama bin Laden's top lieutenants -- in the city of Basra.

You can read more about it here:

http://wincoast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42645



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Poster: FP Date: Oct 12, 2006 6:38am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?


I just looked today and found more of the same. Here's an encrypted RAR archive:
http://www.archive.org/details/fmaaak
I have no time to hunt down more right now.

If I was a curator here, I'd delete all RARs from this section of the archive, encrypted or not. I'd delete all sound files, or move them to an audio section. That would shake out a lot of this weird stuff. I'd explicitly post a no-remote-hosting policy, in case there isn't one already. I'd move all jihadist video to its own section, to avoid muddying the already overstuffed OPEN SOURCE collection. DRIVE-IN MOVIE ADS and other specialized collections exist.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffARossi Date: Oct 12, 2006 11:01am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

Hi Frank,

We do generally take down rar and zip files when we come across them, password protected or not. It says in the FAQs and on the checkout page when you create an item not to upload these sorts of files.

However, we don't mind if people upload files here and then remotely host them elsewhere. The point I was making is that it has to be a two way street - users of this site have to be able to access the content, not just users of a remote site. So remote hosting is fine - password protecting your files is not.

We do have a section in the Iraq War collection for "jihadist" videos that appear to be about Iraq. Since nobody here speaks Arabic, we're mostly just guessing about that, though.
http://www.archive.org/details/iraq_middleeast

Please do feel free to submit error reports for rar files or for things that you think should be in the Iraq collection.

Thanks,

Alexis

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Poster: mcglone Date: Oct 12, 2006 11:32am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

gulp.

ian


We do have a section in the Iraq War collection for "jihadist" videos that appear to be about Iraq. Since nobody here speaks Arabic, we're mostly just guessing about that, though.

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Poster: Telephone Toughguy Date: Oct 12, 2006 11:36am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

RAR= Retarded Arabic Reruns...

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Oct 12, 2006 11:45am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

If any of that "Arab stuff" supports the Islamic Jihad DECLARED against the USA and the West, it should not be allowed in the archive at this time of war -imo. Nazi propaganda was NOT tolorated in WW2, and Jihadist propaganda should not be tolorated here. (Free speech my ass!)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 12, 2006 12:06pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

i agree - NO WAR PROPOGANDA SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THIS SITE!!! - whether it is islamist, north korean, or american.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Oct 12, 2006 12:14pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

I agree, even amerikan... :)
it's interesting to study WW2 propaganda....now. Thats why i said "at this time"

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 12, 2006 12:23pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

i do realize what i posted was kinda anti free speech. i am just so sick of war and conflict, i dont need to see it on this site. i suppose i can just ignore it if the powers that be must allow it here. i see CNN enough to be sick of this whole deal though. I'm not necessily anti-war/pro-war/anti-peace/pro-peace. Things that have to be done for the greater good must be done. I'm just spouting off - ignore me

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Oct 12, 2006 12:37pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

time to toke some happy....peace!
i'm still wurkin on how to dose the middle yeast

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Poster: Telephone Toughguy Date: Oct 13, 2006 6:53am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

Hopefully there will be much more strychnine in those doses than the jaw churning, stomach turning blotter from the 80's...

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Oct 13, 2006 6:59am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

Just the pure basics - lysergic acid diethylamide-25
add some Hollywood special effects with Alah's booming voice instructing them to dancing and handing out flowers
Then a 9/78 Egypt show recording with Hamza el-Din opening.
Peace baby, Peace!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 12, 2006 11:45am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

i'll second that "gulp"

not sure what to make of this.

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 12, 2006 12:38pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

What we need is Liam to hit these folks with some of that, "I am you and you are me" BS. My guess is they won't buy it either, but maybe he can drive them off with one of his rambling posts from nether/hinter/lala land. OR, wherever the f he's residing these days.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Oct 12, 2006 12:53pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

set them free with LSD

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 12, 2006 1:22pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

An LSD mist, followed by a rain-storm of pre-rolled doobies, followed by blasting renditions of Uncle John's Band and Ripple. If that doesn't change their religion and get them to put down their weapons, we're doomed.

Imagine CNN showing pictures from Iraq and Afganistan of people dancing in the streets with big signs showing pictures of The Oprah and chanting, "Op-rah, Op-rah, Op-rah...".

This post was modified by high flow on 2006-10-12 20:22:47

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 12, 2006 1:29pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

"TASTE ETERNITY"
the sword sings Blues for ALLAH
In'sh'ALLAH

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 12, 2006 1:10pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

i'm assuming everyone noticed his "new" qustioning post just after the doc gave his oprah pick - typical

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Oct 12, 2006 2:16pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

well, at least not today, this is his last sighting >>
October 11, 2006 08:16:54pm

who's that guy that chases windmills? He's a very intelligent poster with issues, but dire, i am you and you are me! (except for the sheep)

This post was modified by cosmicharlie on 2006-10-12 21:16:48

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 12, 2006 2:38pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

ive actually chased windmills before - in Holland - thanks for the memory recall. Some serious hash and some green bud with a few graduate student budies of mine while studying at Oxford. We took a fun fun excursion. Thank god the dutch drive on the right side of the road. We stopped at farms with windmills and tulips and sat upon the farmers donkeys taking picutures while the farmer just smiled at us. Then up at Den Helder, we stood atop the sea dam with the water licking at our feet and our car hundreds of feet below us under sea level. will never forget. what a beatiful beautiful country and awesome people - the dutch truly make one feel right at home - even us red-eyed americans trying to have some fun. went to carnivals and out of the way restaurants in little teeny villages. damn that was a real trip

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Oct 12, 2006 3:04pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

and apparently they know how to build levees that will keep out water . . .

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 12, 2006 4:44pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

yeah - 200 feet higher than New Orleans. Why is that?? Why could not we do better when Hollands levees have been there for decades???? I just dont understand. Is it because New Orleans is poor and black??? Methinks that may have something to do with it unfortunately. I am no conspiracy theorist, but our gov. failed the city of new orleans, state of louisiana and the state of mississippi. For what real reason, i'm not sure - im a pathetic little new englander. Just makes me sick knowing that things still aren't right down there, but we build up other countries instead of our own. enough. i havent even begun to vent, and i will go no further. i am sick!

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Poster: FP Date: Oct 12, 2006 4:37pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?


I just noticed there was an IRAQ WAR section among the newsreel collections. It seems the best thing to do would be to shuffle the unpleasant Islamic boom videos over there.

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Poster: BondoFox Date: Dec 3, 2006 11:27am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

Gee, think you may want to find someone who DOES speak Arabic?

If Archive.Org is hosting matierial that is potentially harmful to the US or it's allies, then it's giving aid and comfort to the enemy. As much as I love Archive.Org, maybe the FBI needs to be made aware of what's going on.

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Poster: glenn Date: Feb 11, 2007 11:01am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

'The enemy'?

If the goal of the internet archive is to maintain a collection of information -- such as did the library of Alexandria, 'the enemy' is anyone who restricts the free flow and collection of information.

Anyone who places restrictions on freedom of speech.

Anyone who places restrictions on free assembly.

Any government that covers up the truth and restricts information about what they are really doing.

Sound familiar?

Who is the REAL enemy?

Use your brains while you still have the right to do so and figure it out. If the US was doing to my neighborhood what they are doing to neighborhoods in Iraq, I'd be on a jihad myself. Wouldn't you? Or do you think that whatever "the president" says is the law, and whatever the law is is right???

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Poster: Spaced Date: Feb 11, 2007 12:18pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: What's with the flood of arab stuff?

>>giving aid and comfort to the enemy>>

That's silly. I agree, we don't have to destroy the US to save it.

I'm sure the FBI is aware -- and they themselves might have arranged to get these things posted! On your end, why not just post a warning comment in what you find objectionable?